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Crash inside of Vision predictWithCVPixelBuffer - Crashed: com.apple.VN.detectorSyncTasksQueue.VNCoreMLTransformer
Hello, We have been encountering a persistent crash in our application, which is deployed exclusively on iPad devices. The crash occurs in the following code block: let requestHandler = ImageRequestHandler(paddedImage) var request = CoreMLRequest(model: model) request.cropAndScaleAction = .scaleToFit let results = try await requestHandler.perform(request) The client using this code is wrapped inside an actor, following Swift concurrency principles. The issue has been consistently reproduced across multiple iPadOS versions, including: iPad OS - 18.4.0 iPad OS - 18.4.1 iPad OS - 18.5.0 This is the crash log - Crashed: com.apple.VN.detectorSyncTasksQueue.VNCoreMLTransformer 0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7b98 objc_retain + 16 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7b98 objc_retain_x0 + 16 2 libobjc.A.dylib 0xbf18 objc_getProperty + 100 3 Vision 0x326300 -[VNCoreMLModel predictWithCVPixelBuffer:options:error:] + 148 4 Vision 0x3273b0 -[VNCoreMLTransformer processRegionOfInterest:croppedPixelBuffer:options:qosClass:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:] + 748 5 Vision 0x2ccdcc __119-[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke_5 + 132 6 Vision 0x14600 VNExecuteBlock + 80 7 Vision 0x14580 __76+[VNDetector runSuccessReportingBlockSynchronously:detector:qosClass:error:]_block_invoke + 56 8 libdispatch.dylib 0x6c98 _dispatch_block_sync_invoke + 240 9 libdispatch.dylib 0x1b584 _dispatch_client_callout + 16 10 libdispatch.dylib 0x11728 _dispatch_lane_barrier_sync_invoke_and_complete + 56 11 libdispatch.dylib 0x7fac _dispatch_sync_block_with_privdata + 452 12 Vision 0x14110 -[VNControlledCapacityTasksQueue dispatchSyncByPreservingQueueCapacity:] + 60 13 Vision 0x13ffc +[VNDetector runSuccessReportingBlockSynchronously:detector:qosClass:error:] + 324 14 Vision 0x2ccc80 __119-[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke_4 + 336 15 Vision 0x14600 VNExecuteBlock + 80 16 Vision 0x2cc98c __119-[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke_3 + 256 17 libdispatch.dylib 0x1b584 _dispatch_client_callout + 16 18 libdispatch.dylib 0x6ab0 _dispatch_block_invoke_direct + 284 19 Vision 0x2cc454 -[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:] + 632 20 Vision 0x2cd14c __111-[VNDetector processUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke + 124 21 Vision 0x14600 VNExecuteBlock + 80 22 Vision 0x2ccfbc -[VNDetector processUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:] + 340 23 Vision 0x125410 __swift_memcpy112_8 + 4852 24 libswift_Concurrency.dylib 0x5c134 swift::runJobInEstablishedExecutorContext(swift::Job*) + 292 25 libswift_Concurrency.dylib 0x5d5c8 swift_job_runImpl(swift::Job*, swift::SerialExecutorRef) + 156 26 libdispatch.dylib 0x13db0 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 364 27 libdispatch.dylib 0x1454c _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 156 28 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x9d0 _pthread_wqthread + 232 29 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xaac start_wqthread + 8 We found an issue similar to us - https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/770771. But the crash logs are quite different, we believe this warrants further investigation to better understand the root cause and potential mitigation strategies. Please let us know if any additional information would help diagnose this issue.
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Jul ’25
LanguageModelStream and collecting the final output
I have a Generable type with many elements. I am using a stream() to incrementally process the output (Generable.PartiallyGenerated?) content. At the end, I want to pass the final version (not partially generated) to another function. I cannot seem to find a good way to convert from a MyGenerable.PartiallyGenerated to a MyGenerable. Am I missing some functionality in the APIs?
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Jul ’25
How to pass data to FoundationModels with a stable identifier
For example: I have a list of to-dos, each with a unique id (a GUID). I want to feed them to the LLM model and have the model rewrite the items so they start with an action verb. I'd like to get them back and identify which rewritten item corresponds to which original item. I obviously can't compare the text, as it has changed. I've tried passing the original GUIDs in with each to-do, but the extra GUID characters pollutes the input and confuses the model. I've tried numbering them in order and adding an originalSortOrder field to my generable type, but it doesn't work reliably. Any suggestions? I could do them one at a time, but I also have a use case where I'm asking for them to be organized in sections, and while I've instructed the model not to rename anything, it still happens. It's just all very nondeterministic.
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Jun ’25
visionOS 26 beta 2: Symbol Not Found on Foundation Models
When I try to run visionOS 26 beta 2 on my device the app crashes on Launch: dyld[904]: Symbol not found: _$s16FoundationModels10TranscriptV7entriesACSayAC5EntryOG_tcfC Referenced from: <A71932DD-53EB-39E2-9733-32E9D961D186> /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/53866099-99B1-4BBD-8C94-CD022646EB5D/VisionPets.app/VisionPets.debug.dylib Expected in: <F68A7984-6B48-3958-A48D-E9F541868C62> /System/Library/Frameworks/FoundationModels.framework/FoundationModels Symbol not found: _$s16FoundationModels10TranscriptV7entriesACSayAC5EntryOG_tcfC Referenced from: <A71932DD-53EB-39E2-9733-32E9D961D186> /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/53866099-99B1-4BBD-8C94-CD022646EB5D/VisionPets.app/VisionPets.debug.dylib Expected in: <F68A7984-6B48-3958-A48D-E9F541868C62> /System/Library/Frameworks/FoundationModels.framework/FoundationModels dyld config: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/system/introspection DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/libLogRedirect.dylib:/usr/lib/libBacktraceRecording.dylib:/usr/lib/libMainThreadChecker.dylib:/usr/lib/libViewDebuggerSupport.dylib:/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GPUToolsCapture.framework/GPUToolsCapture Symbol not found: _$s16FoundationModels10TranscriptV7entriesACSayAC5EntryOG_tcfC Referenced from: <A71932DD-53EB-39E2-9733-32E9D961D186> /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/53866099-99B1-4BBD-8C94-CD022646EB5D/VisionPets.app/VisionPets.debug.dylib Expected in: <F68A7984-6B48-3958-A48D-E9F541868C62> /System/Library/Frameworks/FoundationModels.framework/FoundationModels dyld config: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/system/introspection DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/libLogRedirect.dylib:/usr/lib/libBacktraceRecording.dylib:/usr/lib/libMainThreadChecker.dylib:/usr/lib/libViewDebuggerSupport.dylib:/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GPUToolsCapture.framework/GPUToolsCapture Message from debugger: Terminated due to signal 6
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Jun ’25
Khmer Script Misidentified as Thai in Vision Framework
It is vital for Apple to refine its OCR models to correctly distinguish between Khmer and Thai scripts. Incorrectly labeling Khmer text as Thai is more than a technical bug; it is a culturally insensitive error that impacts national identity, especially given the current geopolitical climate between Cambodia and Thailand. Implementing a more robust language-detection threshold would prevent these harmful misidentifications. There is a significant logic flaw in the VNRecognizeTextRequest language detection when processing Khmer script. When the property automaticallyDetectsLanguage is set to true, the Vision framework frequently misidentifies Khmer characters as Thai. While both scripts share historical roots, they are distinct languages with different alphabets. Currently, the model’s confidence threshold for distinguishing between these two scripts is too low, leading to incorrect OCR output in both developer-facing APIs and Apple’s native ecosystem (Preview, Live Text, and Photos). import SwiftUI import Vision class TextExtractor { func extractText(from data: Data, completion: @escaping (String) -> Void) { let request = VNRecognizeTextRequest { (request, error) in guard let observations = request.results as? [VNRecognizedTextObservation] else { completion("No text found.") return } let recognizedStrings = observations.compactMap { observation in let str = observation.topCandidates(1).first?.string return "{text: \(str!), confidence: \(observation.confidence)}" } completion(recognizedStrings.joined(separator: "\n")) } request.automaticallyDetectsLanguage = true // <-- This is the issue. request.recognitionLevel = .accurate let handler = VNImageRequestHandler(data: data, options: [:]) DispatchQueue.global(qos: .background).async { do { try handler.perform([request]) } catch { completion("Failed to perform OCR: \(error.localizedDescription)") } } } } Recognizing Khmer Confidence Score is low for Khmer text. (The output is in Thai language with low confidence score) Recognizing English Confidence Score is high expected. Recognizing Thai Confidence Score is high as expected Issues on Preview, Photos Khmer text Copied text Kouk Pring Chroum Temple [19121 รอาสายสุกตีนานยารรีสใหิสรราภูชิตีนนสุฐตีย์ [รุก เผือชิษาธอยกัตธ์ตายตราพาษชาณา ถวเชยาใบสราเบรถทีมูสินตราพาษชาณา ทีมูโษา เช็ก อาษเชิษฐอารายสุกบดตพรธุรฯ ตากร"สุก"ผาตากรธกรธุกเยากสเผาพศฐตาสาย รัอรณาษ"ตีพย" สเผาพกรกฐาภูชิสาเครๆผู:สุกรตีพาสเผาพสรอสายใผิตรรารตีพสๆ เดียอลายสุกตีน ธาราชรติ ธิพรหณาะพูชุบละเาหLunet De Lajonquiere ผารูกรสาราพารผรผาสิตภพ ตารสิทูก ธิพิ คุณที่นสายเระพบพเคเผาหนารเกะทรนภาษเราภุพเสารเราษทีเลิกสญาเราหรุฬารชสเกาก เรากุม สงสอบานตรเราะากกต่ายภากายระตารุกเตียน Recommended Solutions 1. Set a Threshold Filter out the detected result where the threshold is less than or equal to 0.5, so that it would not output low quality text which can lead to the issue. For example, let recognizedStrings = observations.compactMap { observation in if observation.confidence <= 0.5 { return nil } let str = observation.topCandidates(1).first?.string return "{text: \(str!), confidence: \(observation.confidence)}" } 2. Add Khmer Language Support This issue would never happen if the model has the capability to detect and recognize image with Khmer language. Doc2Text GitHub: https://github.com/seanghay/Doc2Text-Swift
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Jan ’26
Stream response
With respond() methods, the foundation model works well enough. With streamResponse() methods, the responses are very repetitive, verbose, and messy. My app with foundation model uses more than 500 MB memory on an iPad Pro when running from Xcode. Devices supporting Apple Intelligence have at least 8GB memory. Should Apple use a bigger model (using 3 ~ 4 GB memory) for better stream responses?
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Jul ’25
Unified Use Case Mail Categories & Spam
Hi Apple product owners. I am missing a unified concept which might be derived from the use cases for mail categories and mail spam for the app "Mail" on Mac. I need a recommendation on how to use categories in combination with the spam filter to get most out of it. So I was looking for the use cases for the 2 functionality areas in order to figure out how to organise my mails by using as much automation as possible before I start creating intelligent folders in addition. What can you recommend where I get this information from? I don't want to guess or read a lot of forum contributions which are based on guesses.
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Apr ’25
Restricting App Installation to Devices Supporting Apple Intelligence Without Triggering Game Mode
Hello, My app fully relies on the new Foundation Models. Since Foundation Models require Apple Intelligence, I want to ensure that only devices capable of running Apple Intelligence can install my app. When checking the UIRequiredDeviceCapabilities property for a suitable value, I found that iphone-performance-gaming-tier seems the closest match. Based on my research: On iPhone, this effectively limits installation to iPhone 15 Pro or later. On iPad, it ensures M1 or newer devices. This exactly matches the hardware requirements for Apple Intelligence. However, after setting iphone-performance-gaming-tier, I noticed that on iPad, Game Mode (Game Overlay) is automatically activated, and my app is treated as a game. My questions are: Is there a more appropriate UIRequiredDeviceCapabilities value that would enforce the same Apple Intelligence hardware requirements without triggering Game Mode? If not, is there another way to restrict installation to devices meeting Apple Intelligence requirements? Is there a way to prevent Game Mode from appearing for my app while still using this capability restriction? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Aug ’25
Apple's Illusion of Thinking paper and Path to Real AI Reasoning
Hey everyone I'm Manish Mehta, field CTO at Centific. I recently read Apple's white paper, The Illusion of Thinking and it got me thinking about the current state of AI reasoning. Who here has read it? The paper highlights how LLMs often rely on pattern recognition rather than genuine understanding. When faced with complex tasks, their performance can degrade significantly. I was just thinking that to move beyond this problem, we need to explore approaches that combines Deeper Reasoning Architectures for true cognitive capability with Deep Human Partnership to guide AI toward better judgment and understanding. The first part means fundamentally rewiring AI to reason. This involves advancing deeper architectures like World Models, which can build internal simulations to understand real-world scenarios , and Neurosymbolic systems, which combines neural networks with symbolic reasoning for deeper self-verification. Additionally, we need to look at deep human partnership and scalable oversight. An AI cannot learn certain things from data alone, it lacks the real-world judgment an AI will never have. Among other things, deep domain expert human partners are needed to instill this wisdom , validate the AI's entire reasoning process , build its ethical guardrails , and act as skilled adversaries to find hidden flaws before they can cause harm. What do you all think? Is this focus on a deeper partnership between advanced AI reasoning and deep human judgment the right path forward? Agree? Disagree? Thanks
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Jul ’25
Compatibility issue of TensorFlow-metal with PyArrow
Overview I'm experiencing a critical issue where TensorFlow-metal and PyArrow seem to be incompatible when installed together in the same environment. Whenever both packages are present, TensorFlow crashes and the kernel dies during execution. Environment Details Environment Details macOS Version: 15.3.2 Mac Model: MacBook Pro Max M3 Python Version: 3.11 TensorFlow Version: 2.19 PyArrow Version: 19.0.0 Issue Description: When both TensorFlow-metal and PyArrow are installed in the same Python environment, any attempt to use TensorFlow results in immediate kernel crashes. The issue appears to be a compatibility problem between these two packages rather than a problem with either package individually. Steps to Reproduce Create a new Python environment: conda create -n tf-metal python=3.11 Install TensorFlow-metal: pip install tensorflow tensorflow-metal Install PyArrow: pip install pyarrow Run the following minimal example: # Create a simple model model = tf.keras.Sequential([ tf.keras.layers.Input(shape=(2,)), tf.keras.layers.Dense(1) ]) model.compile(optimizer='adam', loss='mse') model.summary() # This works fine # Generate some dummy data X = np.random.random((100, 2)) y = np.random.random((100, 1)) # The crash happens exactly at this line model.fit(X, y, epochs=5, batch_size=32) # CRASH: Kernel dies here Result: Kernel crashes with no error message What I've Tried Reinstalling both packages in different orders Using different versions of both packages Creating isolated environments Checking system logs for additional error information The only workaround I've found is to use separate environments for each package, which isn't practical for my workflow as I need both libraries for my data processing and machine learning pipeline. Questions Has anyone else encountered this specific compatibility issue? Are there known workarounds that allow both packages to coexist? Is this a known issue that's being addressed in upcoming releases? Any insights, suggestions, or assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy to provide any additional information that might help diagnose this problem. Thank you in advance for your help! Thank you in advance for your help!
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May ’25
Initializing session with transcript ignores tools
When I initialize a session with an existing transcript using this initializer: public convenience init(model: SystemLanguageModel = .default, guardrails: LanguageModelSession.Guardrails = .default, tools: [any Tool] = [], transcript: Transcript) The tools get ignored. I noticed that when doing that, the model never use the tools. When inspecting the transcript, I can see that the instruction entry does not have any tools available to it. I tried this for both transcripts that already include an instruction entry and ones that don't - both yielding the same result.. Is this the intended behavior / am I missing something here?
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Jul ’25
Proposal: Develop a Token Estimation Tool for Foundation Models
Dear Apple Foundation Models Development Team, I am a developer integrating Apple Foundation Models (AFM) into my app and encountered the exceededContextWindowSize error when exceeding the 4096-token limit. Proposal: I suggest Apple develop a tool to estimate the token count of a prompt before sending it to the model. This tool could be integrated into FoundationModels Framework for ease of use. Benefits: A token estimation tool would help developers manage the context window limit and optimize performance. I hope Apple considers this proposal soon. Thank you!
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Aug ’25
InferenceError referencing context length in FoundationModels framework
I'm experimenting with downloading an audio file of spoken content, using the Speech framework to transcribe it, then using FoundationModels to clean up the formatting to add paragraph breaks and such. I have this code to do that cleanup: private func cleanupText(_ text: String) async throws -> String? { print("Cleaning up text of length \(text.count)...") let session = LanguageModelSession(instructions: "The content you read is a transcription of a speech. Separate it into paragraphs by adding newlines. Do not modify the content - only add newlines.") let response = try await session.respond(to: .init(text), generating: String.self) return response.content } The content length is about 29,000 characters. And I get this error: InferenceError::inferenceFailed::Failed to run inference: Context length of 4096 was exceeded during singleExtend.. Is 4096 a reference to a max input length? Or is this a bug? This is running on an M1 iPad Air, with iPadOS 26 Seed 1.
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Jul ’25
FoundationModels and Core Data
Hi, I have an app that uses Core Data to store user information and display it in various views. I want to know if it's possible to easily integrate this setup with FoundationModels to make it easier for the user to query and manipulate the information, and if so, how would I go about it? Can the model be pointed to the database schema file and the SQLite file sitting in the user's app group container to parse out the information needed? And/or should the NSManagedObjects be made @Generable for better output? Any guidance about this would be useful.
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Jun ’25
TAMM toolkit v0.2.0 is for base model older than base model in macOS 26 beta 4
Problem: We trained a LoRA adapter for Apple's FoundationModels framework using their TAMM (Training Adapter for Model Modification) toolkit v0.2.0 on macOS 26 beta 4. The adapter trains successfully but fails to load with: "Adapter is not compatible with the current system base model." TAMM 2.0 contains export/constants.py with: BASE_SIGNATURE = "9799725ff8e851184037110b422d891ad3b92ec1" Findings: Adapter Export Process: In export_fmadapter.py def write_metadata(...): self_dict[MetadataKeys.BASE_SIGNATURE] = BASE_SIGNATURE # Hardcoded value The Compatibility Check: - When loading an adapter, Apple's system compares the adapter's baseModelSignature with the current system model - If they don't match: compatibleAdapterNotFound error - The error doesn't reveal the expected signature Questions: - How is BASE_SIGNATURE derived from the base model? - Is it SHA-1 of base-model.pt or some other computation? - Can we compute the correct signature for beta 4? - Or do we need Apple to release TAMM v0.3.0 with updated signature?
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Aug ’25
What's the best way to load adapters to try?
I'm new to Swift and was hoping the Playground would support loading adaptors. When I tried, I got a permissions error - thinking it's because it's not in the project and Playgrounds don't like going outside the project? A tutorial and some sample code would be helpful. Also some benchmarks on how long it's expected to take. Selfishly I'm on an M2 Mac Mini.
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Jul ’25
Crash inside of Vision predictWithCVPixelBuffer - Crashed: com.apple.VN.detectorSyncTasksQueue.VNCoreMLTransformer
Hello, We have been encountering a persistent crash in our application, which is deployed exclusively on iPad devices. The crash occurs in the following code block: let requestHandler = ImageRequestHandler(paddedImage) var request = CoreMLRequest(model: model) request.cropAndScaleAction = .scaleToFit let results = try await requestHandler.perform(request) The client using this code is wrapped inside an actor, following Swift concurrency principles. The issue has been consistently reproduced across multiple iPadOS versions, including: iPad OS - 18.4.0 iPad OS - 18.4.1 iPad OS - 18.5.0 This is the crash log - Crashed: com.apple.VN.detectorSyncTasksQueue.VNCoreMLTransformer 0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7b98 objc_retain + 16 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7b98 objc_retain_x0 + 16 2 libobjc.A.dylib 0xbf18 objc_getProperty + 100 3 Vision 0x326300 -[VNCoreMLModel predictWithCVPixelBuffer:options:error:] + 148 4 Vision 0x3273b0 -[VNCoreMLTransformer processRegionOfInterest:croppedPixelBuffer:options:qosClass:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:] + 748 5 Vision 0x2ccdcc __119-[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke_5 + 132 6 Vision 0x14600 VNExecuteBlock + 80 7 Vision 0x14580 __76+[VNDetector runSuccessReportingBlockSynchronously:detector:qosClass:error:]_block_invoke + 56 8 libdispatch.dylib 0x6c98 _dispatch_block_sync_invoke + 240 9 libdispatch.dylib 0x1b584 _dispatch_client_callout + 16 10 libdispatch.dylib 0x11728 _dispatch_lane_barrier_sync_invoke_and_complete + 56 11 libdispatch.dylib 0x7fac _dispatch_sync_block_with_privdata + 452 12 Vision 0x14110 -[VNControlledCapacityTasksQueue dispatchSyncByPreservingQueueCapacity:] + 60 13 Vision 0x13ffc +[VNDetector runSuccessReportingBlockSynchronously:detector:qosClass:error:] + 324 14 Vision 0x2ccc80 __119-[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke_4 + 336 15 Vision 0x14600 VNExecuteBlock + 80 16 Vision 0x2cc98c __119-[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke_3 + 256 17 libdispatch.dylib 0x1b584 _dispatch_client_callout + 16 18 libdispatch.dylib 0x6ab0 _dispatch_block_invoke_direct + 284 19 Vision 0x2cc454 -[VNDetector internalProcessUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:] + 632 20 Vision 0x2cd14c __111-[VNDetector processUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:]_block_invoke + 124 21 Vision 0x14600 VNExecuteBlock + 80 22 Vision 0x2ccfbc -[VNDetector processUsingQualityOfServiceClass:options:regionOfInterest:warningRecorder:error:progressHandler:] + 340 23 Vision 0x125410 __swift_memcpy112_8 + 4852 24 libswift_Concurrency.dylib 0x5c134 swift::runJobInEstablishedExecutorContext(swift::Job*) + 292 25 libswift_Concurrency.dylib 0x5d5c8 swift_job_runImpl(swift::Job*, swift::SerialExecutorRef) + 156 26 libdispatch.dylib 0x13db0 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 364 27 libdispatch.dylib 0x1454c _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 156 28 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x9d0 _pthread_wqthread + 232 29 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xaac start_wqthread + 8 We found an issue similar to us - https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/770771. But the crash logs are quite different, we believe this warrants further investigation to better understand the root cause and potential mitigation strategies. Please let us know if any additional information would help diagnose this issue.
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Jul ’25
AI ecosystem
I’m sure someone though about it already. But let’s have ecosystem, where Apple Intelligence uses your most capable (Apple) hardware at first and the cloud service as second.
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May ’25
Foundation Models Tools not invoking
I am using a contact tool to help get contact from my address book. but the model ins't invoking my tool call method. Even tried with a simple tool the outcome is the same my simple tool is not being invoked.
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Jul ’25
The answer that goes on forever
Encountered a few times when the answer get "stuck" (I am now at beta 6). This is an example.
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Aug ’25
LanguageModelStream and collecting the final output
I have a Generable type with many elements. I am using a stream() to incrementally process the output (Generable.PartiallyGenerated?) content. At the end, I want to pass the final version (not partially generated) to another function. I cannot seem to find a good way to convert from a MyGenerable.PartiallyGenerated to a MyGenerable. Am I missing some functionality in the APIs?
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Jul ’25
How to pass data to FoundationModels with a stable identifier
For example: I have a list of to-dos, each with a unique id (a GUID). I want to feed them to the LLM model and have the model rewrite the items so they start with an action verb. I'd like to get them back and identify which rewritten item corresponds to which original item. I obviously can't compare the text, as it has changed. I've tried passing the original GUIDs in with each to-do, but the extra GUID characters pollutes the input and confuses the model. I've tried numbering them in order and adding an originalSortOrder field to my generable type, but it doesn't work reliably. Any suggestions? I could do them one at a time, but I also have a use case where I'm asking for them to be organized in sections, and while I've instructed the model not to rename anything, it still happens. It's just all very nondeterministic.
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Jun ’25
visionOS 26 beta 2: Symbol Not Found on Foundation Models
When I try to run visionOS 26 beta 2 on my device the app crashes on Launch: dyld[904]: Symbol not found: _$s16FoundationModels10TranscriptV7entriesACSayAC5EntryOG_tcfC Referenced from: <A71932DD-53EB-39E2-9733-32E9D961D186> /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/53866099-99B1-4BBD-8C94-CD022646EB5D/VisionPets.app/VisionPets.debug.dylib Expected in: <F68A7984-6B48-3958-A48D-E9F541868C62> /System/Library/Frameworks/FoundationModels.framework/FoundationModels Symbol not found: _$s16FoundationModels10TranscriptV7entriesACSayAC5EntryOG_tcfC Referenced from: <A71932DD-53EB-39E2-9733-32E9D961D186> /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/53866099-99B1-4BBD-8C94-CD022646EB5D/VisionPets.app/VisionPets.debug.dylib Expected in: <F68A7984-6B48-3958-A48D-E9F541868C62> /System/Library/Frameworks/FoundationModels.framework/FoundationModels dyld config: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/system/introspection DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/libLogRedirect.dylib:/usr/lib/libBacktraceRecording.dylib:/usr/lib/libMainThreadChecker.dylib:/usr/lib/libViewDebuggerSupport.dylib:/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GPUToolsCapture.framework/GPUToolsCapture Symbol not found: _$s16FoundationModels10TranscriptV7entriesACSayAC5EntryOG_tcfC Referenced from: <A71932DD-53EB-39E2-9733-32E9D961D186> /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/53866099-99B1-4BBD-8C94-CD022646EB5D/VisionPets.app/VisionPets.debug.dylib Expected in: <F68A7984-6B48-3958-A48D-E9F541868C62> /System/Library/Frameworks/FoundationModels.framework/FoundationModels dyld config: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/system/introspection DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/libLogRedirect.dylib:/usr/lib/libBacktraceRecording.dylib:/usr/lib/libMainThreadChecker.dylib:/usr/lib/libViewDebuggerSupport.dylib:/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GPUToolsCapture.framework/GPUToolsCapture Message from debugger: Terminated due to signal 6
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Jun ’25
Khmer Script Misidentified as Thai in Vision Framework
It is vital for Apple to refine its OCR models to correctly distinguish between Khmer and Thai scripts. Incorrectly labeling Khmer text as Thai is more than a technical bug; it is a culturally insensitive error that impacts national identity, especially given the current geopolitical climate between Cambodia and Thailand. Implementing a more robust language-detection threshold would prevent these harmful misidentifications. There is a significant logic flaw in the VNRecognizeTextRequest language detection when processing Khmer script. When the property automaticallyDetectsLanguage is set to true, the Vision framework frequently misidentifies Khmer characters as Thai. While both scripts share historical roots, they are distinct languages with different alphabets. Currently, the model’s confidence threshold for distinguishing between these two scripts is too low, leading to incorrect OCR output in both developer-facing APIs and Apple’s native ecosystem (Preview, Live Text, and Photos). import SwiftUI import Vision class TextExtractor { func extractText(from data: Data, completion: @escaping (String) -> Void) { let request = VNRecognizeTextRequest { (request, error) in guard let observations = request.results as? [VNRecognizedTextObservation] else { completion("No text found.") return } let recognizedStrings = observations.compactMap { observation in let str = observation.topCandidates(1).first?.string return "{text: \(str!), confidence: \(observation.confidence)}" } completion(recognizedStrings.joined(separator: "\n")) } request.automaticallyDetectsLanguage = true // <-- This is the issue. request.recognitionLevel = .accurate let handler = VNImageRequestHandler(data: data, options: [:]) DispatchQueue.global(qos: .background).async { do { try handler.perform([request]) } catch { completion("Failed to perform OCR: \(error.localizedDescription)") } } } } Recognizing Khmer Confidence Score is low for Khmer text. (The output is in Thai language with low confidence score) Recognizing English Confidence Score is high expected. Recognizing Thai Confidence Score is high as expected Issues on Preview, Photos Khmer text Copied text Kouk Pring Chroum Temple [19121 รอาสายสุกตีนานยารรีสใหิสรราภูชิตีนนสุฐตีย์ [รุก เผือชิษาธอยกัตธ์ตายตราพาษชาณา ถวเชยาใบสราเบรถทีมูสินตราพาษชาณา ทีมูโษา เช็ก อาษเชิษฐอารายสุกบดตพรธุรฯ ตากร"สุก"ผาตากรธกรธุกเยากสเผาพศฐตาสาย รัอรณาษ"ตีพย" สเผาพกรกฐาภูชิสาเครๆผู:สุกรตีพาสเผาพสรอสายใผิตรรารตีพสๆ เดียอลายสุกตีน ธาราชรติ ธิพรหณาะพูชุบละเาหLunet De Lajonquiere ผารูกรสาราพารผรผาสิตภพ ตารสิทูก ธิพิ คุณที่นสายเระพบพเคเผาหนารเกะทรนภาษเราภุพเสารเราษทีเลิกสญาเราหรุฬารชสเกาก เรากุม สงสอบานตรเราะากกต่ายภากายระตารุกเตียน Recommended Solutions 1. Set a Threshold Filter out the detected result where the threshold is less than or equal to 0.5, so that it would not output low quality text which can lead to the issue. For example, let recognizedStrings = observations.compactMap { observation in if observation.confidence <= 0.5 { return nil } let str = observation.topCandidates(1).first?.string return "{text: \(str!), confidence: \(observation.confidence)}" } 2. Add Khmer Language Support This issue would never happen if the model has the capability to detect and recognize image with Khmer language. Doc2Text GitHub: https://github.com/seanghay/Doc2Text-Swift
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Jan ’26
Stream response
With respond() methods, the foundation model works well enough. With streamResponse() methods, the responses are very repetitive, verbose, and messy. My app with foundation model uses more than 500 MB memory on an iPad Pro when running from Xcode. Devices supporting Apple Intelligence have at least 8GB memory. Should Apple use a bigger model (using 3 ~ 4 GB memory) for better stream responses?
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Jul ’25
Unified Use Case Mail Categories & Spam
Hi Apple product owners. I am missing a unified concept which might be derived from the use cases for mail categories and mail spam for the app "Mail" on Mac. I need a recommendation on how to use categories in combination with the spam filter to get most out of it. So I was looking for the use cases for the 2 functionality areas in order to figure out how to organise my mails by using as much automation as possible before I start creating intelligent folders in addition. What can you recommend where I get this information from? I don't want to guess or read a lot of forum contributions which are based on guesses.
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Apr ’25
Restricting App Installation to Devices Supporting Apple Intelligence Without Triggering Game Mode
Hello, My app fully relies on the new Foundation Models. Since Foundation Models require Apple Intelligence, I want to ensure that only devices capable of running Apple Intelligence can install my app. When checking the UIRequiredDeviceCapabilities property for a suitable value, I found that iphone-performance-gaming-tier seems the closest match. Based on my research: On iPhone, this effectively limits installation to iPhone 15 Pro or later. On iPad, it ensures M1 or newer devices. This exactly matches the hardware requirements for Apple Intelligence. However, after setting iphone-performance-gaming-tier, I noticed that on iPad, Game Mode (Game Overlay) is automatically activated, and my app is treated as a game. My questions are: Is there a more appropriate UIRequiredDeviceCapabilities value that would enforce the same Apple Intelligence hardware requirements without triggering Game Mode? If not, is there another way to restrict installation to devices meeting Apple Intelligence requirements? Is there a way to prevent Game Mode from appearing for my app while still using this capability restriction? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Aug ’25
Apple's Illusion of Thinking paper and Path to Real AI Reasoning
Hey everyone I'm Manish Mehta, field CTO at Centific. I recently read Apple's white paper, The Illusion of Thinking and it got me thinking about the current state of AI reasoning. Who here has read it? The paper highlights how LLMs often rely on pattern recognition rather than genuine understanding. When faced with complex tasks, their performance can degrade significantly. I was just thinking that to move beyond this problem, we need to explore approaches that combines Deeper Reasoning Architectures for true cognitive capability with Deep Human Partnership to guide AI toward better judgment and understanding. The first part means fundamentally rewiring AI to reason. This involves advancing deeper architectures like World Models, which can build internal simulations to understand real-world scenarios , and Neurosymbolic systems, which combines neural networks with symbolic reasoning for deeper self-verification. Additionally, we need to look at deep human partnership and scalable oversight. An AI cannot learn certain things from data alone, it lacks the real-world judgment an AI will never have. Among other things, deep domain expert human partners are needed to instill this wisdom , validate the AI's entire reasoning process , build its ethical guardrails , and act as skilled adversaries to find hidden flaws before they can cause harm. What do you all think? Is this focus on a deeper partnership between advanced AI reasoning and deep human judgment the right path forward? Agree? Disagree? Thanks
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Jul ’25
Documentation Deleted?
Was just wondering why the foundation model documentation is no longer available, thanks! https://developer.apple.com/documentation/FoundationModels
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Aug ’25
Compatibility issue of TensorFlow-metal with PyArrow
Overview I'm experiencing a critical issue where TensorFlow-metal and PyArrow seem to be incompatible when installed together in the same environment. Whenever both packages are present, TensorFlow crashes and the kernel dies during execution. Environment Details Environment Details macOS Version: 15.3.2 Mac Model: MacBook Pro Max M3 Python Version: 3.11 TensorFlow Version: 2.19 PyArrow Version: 19.0.0 Issue Description: When both TensorFlow-metal and PyArrow are installed in the same Python environment, any attempt to use TensorFlow results in immediate kernel crashes. The issue appears to be a compatibility problem between these two packages rather than a problem with either package individually. Steps to Reproduce Create a new Python environment: conda create -n tf-metal python=3.11 Install TensorFlow-metal: pip install tensorflow tensorflow-metal Install PyArrow: pip install pyarrow Run the following minimal example: # Create a simple model model = tf.keras.Sequential([ tf.keras.layers.Input(shape=(2,)), tf.keras.layers.Dense(1) ]) model.compile(optimizer='adam', loss='mse') model.summary() # This works fine # Generate some dummy data X = np.random.random((100, 2)) y = np.random.random((100, 1)) # The crash happens exactly at this line model.fit(X, y, epochs=5, batch_size=32) # CRASH: Kernel dies here Result: Kernel crashes with no error message What I've Tried Reinstalling both packages in different orders Using different versions of both packages Creating isolated environments Checking system logs for additional error information The only workaround I've found is to use separate environments for each package, which isn't practical for my workflow as I need both libraries for my data processing and machine learning pipeline. Questions Has anyone else encountered this specific compatibility issue? Are there known workarounds that allow both packages to coexist? Is this a known issue that's being addressed in upcoming releases? Any insights, suggestions, or assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy to provide any additional information that might help diagnose this problem. Thank you in advance for your help! Thank you in advance for your help!
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May ’25
Initializing session with transcript ignores tools
When I initialize a session with an existing transcript using this initializer: public convenience init(model: SystemLanguageModel = .default, guardrails: LanguageModelSession.Guardrails = .default, tools: [any Tool] = [], transcript: Transcript) The tools get ignored. I noticed that when doing that, the model never use the tools. When inspecting the transcript, I can see that the instruction entry does not have any tools available to it. I tried this for both transcripts that already include an instruction entry and ones that don't - both yielding the same result.. Is this the intended behavior / am I missing something here?
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Jul ’25
Proposal: Develop a Token Estimation Tool for Foundation Models
Dear Apple Foundation Models Development Team, I am a developer integrating Apple Foundation Models (AFM) into my app and encountered the exceededContextWindowSize error when exceeding the 4096-token limit. Proposal: I suggest Apple develop a tool to estimate the token count of a prompt before sending it to the model. This tool could be integrated into FoundationModels Framework for ease of use. Benefits: A token estimation tool would help developers manage the context window limit and optimize performance. I hope Apple considers this proposal soon. Thank you!
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Aug ’25
InferenceError referencing context length in FoundationModels framework
I'm experimenting with downloading an audio file of spoken content, using the Speech framework to transcribe it, then using FoundationModels to clean up the formatting to add paragraph breaks and such. I have this code to do that cleanup: private func cleanupText(_ text: String) async throws -> String? { print("Cleaning up text of length \(text.count)...") let session = LanguageModelSession(instructions: "The content you read is a transcription of a speech. Separate it into paragraphs by adding newlines. Do not modify the content - only add newlines.") let response = try await session.respond(to: .init(text), generating: String.self) return response.content } The content length is about 29,000 characters. And I get this error: InferenceError::inferenceFailed::Failed to run inference: Context length of 4096 was exceeded during singleExtend.. Is 4096 a reference to a max input length? Or is this a bug? This is running on an M1 iPad Air, with iPadOS 26 Seed 1.
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Jul ’25
FoundationModels and Core Data
Hi, I have an app that uses Core Data to store user information and display it in various views. I want to know if it's possible to easily integrate this setup with FoundationModels to make it easier for the user to query and manipulate the information, and if so, how would I go about it? Can the model be pointed to the database schema file and the SQLite file sitting in the user's app group container to parse out the information needed? And/or should the NSManagedObjects be made @Generable for better output? Any guidance about this would be useful.
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Jun ’25
TAMM toolkit v0.2.0 is for base model older than base model in macOS 26 beta 4
Problem: We trained a LoRA adapter for Apple's FoundationModels framework using their TAMM (Training Adapter for Model Modification) toolkit v0.2.0 on macOS 26 beta 4. The adapter trains successfully but fails to load with: "Adapter is not compatible with the current system base model." TAMM 2.0 contains export/constants.py with: BASE_SIGNATURE = "9799725ff8e851184037110b422d891ad3b92ec1" Findings: Adapter Export Process: In export_fmadapter.py def write_metadata(...): self_dict[MetadataKeys.BASE_SIGNATURE] = BASE_SIGNATURE # Hardcoded value The Compatibility Check: - When loading an adapter, Apple's system compares the adapter's baseModelSignature with the current system model - If they don't match: compatibleAdapterNotFound error - The error doesn't reveal the expected signature Questions: - How is BASE_SIGNATURE derived from the base model? - Is it SHA-1 of base-model.pt or some other computation? - Can we compute the correct signature for beta 4? - Or do we need Apple to release TAMM v0.3.0 with updated signature?
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Aug ’25
What's the best way to load adapters to try?
I'm new to Swift and was hoping the Playground would support loading adaptors. When I tried, I got a permissions error - thinking it's because it's not in the project and Playgrounds don't like going outside the project? A tutorial and some sample code would be helpful. Also some benchmarks on how long it's expected to take. Selfishly I'm on an M2 Mac Mini.
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Jul ’25